Thursday, 10 November 2016

Wednesday - questions questions

Rather than watch the previous days paint dry on 3132 the team having done the little sanding and repainting left for them switch to do more of the internal vanishing on the carriage, Ed having decided on just how much colour was needed where. Trevor was making a start to the south end vestibule

while Des and Davey were working away in the main saloon.

David continued cleaning window sliders for 4614 during the morning

before starting the removal of the first window frame from 4614. The bottom was easy as most of the screw securing were not doing so any more. Working his way up the side was not to much of a problem but we realised there were issues when in came to the area approaching the small top windows. So we called in John Hamer, our expert on these things, to assist.

This carriage was originally built flat sided, (i.e. no external window frames)
a later modification saw Bardic frames applied. In our previous experience of these the top window lights and the frame for them has been part of the bardic frame. In this carriage they were still mounted as part of the carriage body with the bardic frame being purely the outer rim. An arrangement we have not come across before. Has anybody else? Is it common?

In this case the frame was secured to the carriage using self tapping screws which tend to be very hard and not easily drillable. This was added to by a series of additional screw connecting the frame to the window light framework as well. We eventually sorted it out and fortunately managed to unscrew the rest of the self tapping screws. We can now see why the frame was added. The body side beneath the window being in a poor state. We can now start discussions with the welder about repairs.

With David working on the windows Davey took over the windows cleaning.

Derrick was finding things for Nick to do as he started on fitting a wood frame to the newly repaired door skin for 4614 door 3. The drain cut outs needed cutting into the lower edge and a small tidy up round the window

after which Nick welded in the 2 replacement sections of crash pillar. Just a liitle work still to do round the corner the Z section.

Paul was doing some final fittings to the doors of 3132 Several door guides needed reapplying as will a lock plate next week. Craig completed the liner for door 1 which is now ready for the capping strips to be re mounted.

In the woodwork shop Colin was starting the assembly of the second set of door he is making for the goods van

while Dave Ward started making a new battery box

and assembling it.

Not on the same scale as the drainage team we have now acquired a small camera for inspecting the internal state of the vacuum and steam pipes. We only need to inspect the situation of the first few inches which we can't usually get at. The rest of the pipework under a carriage we can normally get at well enough.

The lovely clean and clear upholstery shop didn't stay that way for long. We have already identified a program of several carriages for them to get to work on. This the first of 4 seats from the BSK that will be recovered and go into 25743 in the third rake. The seats will be replaced on a rolling programme so eventually we will have out 4 seats back for recovering ready to go into the BSK somewhere down the line.

John Hill and Jenny didn't take long to get stuck into in with the first seat stripped off renovated and the new under cover is here being sewn into place. Its that vicious 6inch needle again!!

And finally can anybody enlighten me as to this crest cast into many of our bogie frames? I found several definitions of ESC including in its use on models but nothing the actually says what of who it was. Other than the obvious casting maker I know nothing.


Anonymous said...

The ESC stands for the English Steel Corporation, who held a licence to make Commonwealth Bogies. The Commonwealth Bogie is named after the Commonwealth Steel Company of Illinois, USA who designed and owned the patent for them.

The C and W Dept Blog of the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway said...

Thanks for the info.

St Blazey 1925 said...

You could have saved the cost of the camera by using the 'small rodent' from Hayles Abbey's mess room!! Great work going on at the C&W, albeit some times a little beyond me.
Can't wait to see the GWR van finished - it will outshine the rest of the goods train!! However that is the way it was. A few wagons looking spruce and few others on their last legs; especially in BR days - I even saw a train running on the main line which still used dumb buffers?? - It derailed on our Down loop at Kidderminster! Regards, Paul.

Anonymous said...

More amazing standards of work from the C&W dept.!
Please note that the Hayles Abbey Rodent has moved to greener pastures and is therefore unable to assist due to the relocation cost of moving him and his family to your works area! You are better off with the small camera, wonderful what new tech can do on old equipment. Good work continues, cant wait for the Santa Special, taking my adopted Granddaughter to one of the trips, (realy the ride is for me to enjoy !!)

The C and W Dept Blog of the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway said...

It's what grandchildrenare for, reasons to ride the trains.

The C and W Dept Blog of the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway said...

I have received this info via email

... I see on Wednesday’s blog that the team has discovered that 4614 has “Poor Man’s Bardics”, or “half Bardics” if you prefer, and they ask how common they are. I can’t speak for the whole population of Mk 1’s, of course, but within my own collection four vehicles have full bardics, two have half bardics, and a third almost certainly has them (though I haven’t dismantled one to check, yet). Of these latter three, two were ex-Eastern Region, and one was LM. The Southern always fitted full Bardics, and did so with 2BA screws and nuts – most of the other works seemed to have used “Pop” or “Avdel” cold rivets from the start.

Best Regards,