Friday, 29 April 2016

Thursday - a clear view, maybe not!

One of the features of today in C&W was the reinstatement of glass into a window frame. Now this doesn't sound much. Just put this glass into this frame along with the 2 top quarter lights. Yeah.

The blue is the protective film covering the glass. As you will have probably guessed this being a small window width wise is a toilet window. So the last thing we want is a clear view. However, the original glass supplied WAS clear. So after a wait several weeks ago the correct frosted glass arrived but we had moved on mentally to other things. Finally today we got back to tackling the window. The frame has been out almost since the carriage came into the works for the side panelling to be welded.

Now I know why it got left! The first part of the process is to install the inner rubber strip. If you have the correct tool its easy, or so we think. We don't have one but guess it is something like those used by the windscreen people. It took efforts from Richard Johnson, John Hamer, Tony Barnard and
myself to eventually, after about 3hours to get the strip in place.
The glass was put into the frame with a little gentle encouragement. Then the outer rubber strip was put in place again with the use of some rubber grease. A much quicker process but more painful, the finger tips ache where you have to pull/push the strip into position. The glass my only be held in by the rubber strip but it won't be falling out even at 80 miles an hour let alone our stately 25.
Finally the job was done and the window frame can be re-installed into the carriage. Overall about 4 hours efforts from 4 of us. A good job we are volunteers! The worry is we have a large window and at least 6 quarter lights to fit in similar frames. There is also the potential to do a whole carriage fairly soon. Not if we can help it!
So while we huffed and puffed what else was being done?
Just next to us in the workshop Richard Stone was starting to paint the Skeleton van frame in GWR Grey.

Similarly under the vehicle was Phil working on the electrics under 7221 in the barn

John Hamer and Ricard had spent the early part of the day jet washing a bogie using our recently acquired (second hand) jet wash. It seems to be quite effective.

Back to the paintshop and 25451.
Various sections of the panelling was being finished off in terms of varnish removal

while at last there were signs of new varnish being applied. A corridor connection door gleams with the wet varnish.

Compartments doors

and the toilet walls were being fitted.

So this is what Alan was doing. Drilling the guide holes for the wood trim

Ron and Roger were doing something similar to the other toilet wall frame work.

Jim who had completed a small section of painting got the 'joy' of cleaning up the brushes. Well some ones got to do it and today it wasn't Dave.

There wasn't a lot of painting done today Jeff did get the final corner undercoated but we are waiting for the varnish removal to finish before we crack on with the external painting. Hopefully next Tuesday.
Footnote: My understanding is that there are 2 types of window frame fitted in Mk1 carriages. The glass is held in place by totally different methods. Guess what, glass replacement in the other sort is no less lengthy but it is less frustrating! 


Ian B said...

On the subject of reglazing, up at Toddington on Bubble W55003, we've completed half the vehicle. The correct tools, and liberal use of tyre soap (as opposed to rubber grease) allow a window to be refitted in just over an hour.

Nigel Hawkins said...

You can also try Swarfega,if you can't get tyre soap.I have used this successfully when changing tyres on my classic cars.Nigel Hawkins

Anonymous said...

Obviously there is a need to share knowledge and experience in all aspects of carriage restoration. I am wondering if within the heritage movement written work instructions and or YouTube videos have been produced to help with tasks such as window glass replacement and DMU gangway set up etc? Also, are there any of the original BR maintenance work instructions available and are these being kept up to date across the heritage movement?

Thank you for your blog posts and it is always a pleasure to read about the great work you are doing and the excellent progress being made.

Dave Hands said...

Avoid using Swarfega if at all possible as some of the chemicals may damage the rubber. Tyre soap is good(as already mentioned) but a solution of Fairy Liquid and water will provide sufficient slip if applied to the rubber.

The C and W Dept Blog of the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway said...

Swarfega is tempting but as stated below not recommended, something I leaned from my historic car days.

There are 2 types of window fitted to Mk1 carriages with very different glazing methods one easy the other with out the correct tool difficult. As far as I know both are different from DMU's and the bubble cars. There wasn't really a slip issue with inner rubber which we had a problem with. It was the inverted v channel it's back rib fitted into.

We have access to many original BR documents but they are not always that helpful we have all come across the 'remove split pin' but it never tells you how or what tool to use. Some come out some are very unwilling. We do have contact with other heritage railway groups and consult occasionally on issues of how to....

As to publishing how to videos are you volunteering? They take time to make.

Ian B said...

The railway's DMU group have access to MWIs, which are generally shared with similar groups via The Railcar Association.

Ian B said...

The railway's DMU group have access to MWIs, which are generally shared with similar groups via The Railcar Association.