Sunday, 12 February 2012

Saturday 11th January

Our report for Saturday comes from Dave as I was attending a wedding. Well it is national wedding week leading up to Valentines Day on Tuesday. What you forgot!

It was a bitterly cold day - at 09:00 the temperature was still -6C in the station car park. Paul, Dennis and Peter Fisher were there when I arrived. Paul had made the tea, but he had to get water from the sink in the Gents as all the supplies to the Mess Room and Workshop were frozen up.

Richard arrived soon after as we had more shunting to do to continue our long run of carriage bogie swapping. We had 11 in attendance, with visits from Bernard Dudfield and Barry Cordell (MD Riviera Trains).

Shunting was central to the plan for the day starting with a lift of SK 25341 on the Jacks, remove the bogies and park them on the back sidings and replace them with the spare B1 bogies currently outside the bar. SK 25341 would then be moved to the pit road, and the new RBr 1672 moved on to the Jacks. The RBr would be lifted to allow access to the replacement bogie (that had been put there last week to replace the defective one), and work could begin to clean and lubricate it. When completed, the coach would be lowered to enable all the brake gear to be connected - much of this would be taken from the original defective bogie.  That was the plan until the 04 shutter needed to moved!

The first job was to start and warm up the 03 shunter.

The battery charger was needed to get things going.

Then moving the 04 shunter proved to be a problem.

Bob Mac and Richard laugh as the 03 initially struggles to pull out the heavy 04, with wheels slipping on the icy rail. There is a slight hump in the track out of the Barn, but some sand on the rail did the trick.


Bob Mac looks on as the bogies from under SK 25431 are hauled out of the Barn.


 As Bob Mac checks that the wheel chocs have been removed, Richard attempts to connect the special link to the bogie.

At this point the air supply to the 03's gear box packed up and all shunting came to a most unwelcome halt.

Lunch was taken.

The shunter apparently appreciated the break because on a retry after lunch everything was working again. With shunting able to be resumed the planned moves were completed with the RBr now in the Barn.

Richard and John Cruxon (from the Loco Dept) looked on as Bob Mac begins removing the various bits of brake rigging from the RBr's defective bogie. By now, the temperature was dropping and it was becoming decidedly chilly to say the least. (Like it was ever warm!)


Other work continued throughout the day.

In the Upholstery coach, it was also somewhat chilly. John Hill had a heater providing some warmth, but a makeshift curtain drawn across the entrance to the little workshop very much improved things, as did the light in the photo which he said was very useful for warming the hands! John in the process of fitting new moquette to one of the large seat backs from the CK.


A close up of the seat's newly-covered arms.

Dennis continues his good work overhauling all the communication cord equipment on our coaching sets.

The chocolate and cream coach set has now been completed.


Grenville completes his work to remove old Formica and sand clean the tables from the RBr 1672. He then started to clean up the insides of SO 4790's windows.


Martin completed the sanding down of the varnished panels inside SO 4790. He then began cleaning up the three covers that will be used to go over the steam heating pipes in the new wheelchair area. He completed the job by painting them silver-grey.

Under the watchful eye of grandfather John, apprentice Ben uses the plasma cutter to create a new section of panel for 4790.


Following on from last Wednesday's Blog, the curved top hat rail that had been giving problems on the west end rebuild of 4790 was replaced. Having welded the new rail it in place, and re-attached the door hinge placements, Peter cleans up the welds. Fingers crossed we have the positioning exact.

Steve Barnfield making some new table legs for the "Brighton Belle" motor coach, owned by Russ Smith.

It's a great pleasure to be able to help Russ complete the refurbishment of his coach, especially after all the help he has given the GWSR with ferrying between Toddington and Winchcombe, and with the trips to the GCR and SVR for the Landslip Appeal special events. Russ never charges for the use of his coach donating everything he receives towards the Landslip appeal.


As well as continuing with the internal work inside the new RBr, Paul began extracting some of the kitchen equipment from the existing RBr 1675 ready for cleaning prior to the new season.

Dave continued cleaning up the new bogie under the RBr until it was shunted into the Barn in between taking all the pictures for the blog.
He later gave a tour of the Workshop to a large party from the Dean Forest Railway (the DMU

Overall, it was a very interesting day, with a lot achieved despite the cold weather and hiccups with the two shunters.


Jim Boyles said...

Hi All,
I don't think I've posted this comment before but, if not, I've certainly thought about it! Would it be possible for you to tell us unitiated, why you are doing the work on the SO and RBR (for example)? I presume it's not just to keep you busy (you surely have enough on your hands!), so they must be destined to become part of a rake at some time?
With Broadway being rebuilt to accommodate and engine and eight coaches, I presume that the current six coach rakes will be extended?
Just a little extra info., would be warmly welcomed!
Keep up the great work!
Jim Boyles (BAG)

The C and W Dept Blog of the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway said...

We are aiming for 3 rakes of atleast 6 carriages each, with the ability to increase these for special events to 8.

Why are we restoring the Rbr?

Well RBr 1675 in the chocolate and cream rake is very tired having been running unchanged for many years so it needs refurbishing again. So RBr 1672 will replace it for 2012.

RBr 1675 will fairly quickly be restored to go into another rake.

SO 4790 is an open coach, much favoured for their seating capacity. We are incorporating 2 places for wheelchair users into the main saloon to improve disabled access.
It will be switched into the C&C rake for the 2012 season and we will repeat the process in 2 more SO carriages so that we have one for each rake.

This process will give us 2 more restored carriages to help with available coaching stock.

It is a process of taking tired carriages from running sets and refurbishing them freaquently they go back into a different rake. Every so often we make the space to do a full restore of one we have not touched before like CK 7221.

Jim Boyles said...

Thanks Peter, much appreciated!

Roger said...

That's interesting. So if we have 7 in the choc rake, 6 in maroon, 5(?) at Toddington, 4790, 7221, 1672 that is 21. Which are the other 3? Timescale..?!

Great blog as usual.

The C and W Dept Blog of the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway said...

Well TSO 4869 is awaiting restoration (see the Other Rolling stock page, I have added a picture).

Plus I gather there is another carraige somewhere up at Toddington, not sitting in the stranded rake that we may be able to do something with. As you will see when 4790 outshops C&W currently have the skills to build most parts of a new interior for an open carriage.

and for the third carriage it is proposed to run a full RBr in each rake but to also use RMB 1808, a mini buffet, as an open carriage in the third set. It would retain the service counter and be used for tour groups and parties rather as we do with the existing Chocolate and Cream rake.

For timescales it is hoped to achieve this over a 2-3 year cycle as carriages are refurbished. Many will change colour, but that's nothing new.

At leat that's my understanding but then I only write the blog so i'm probably the last person to ask.

Nelson Street said...


Just a question but in swapping bogies around are you paying any attention to the springs - they vary according to the load - and some of the heavier vehicles like Catering Cars had larger bearings - of course Commonwealth Bogies were engineered by a capable Scots Engineer to be universal (if heavy)while B5's were needed under heavy vehicles according Swindon's thinking.

I appreciate that you are not running at any speed , but in order to obtain the necessary clearances and buffer heights incorrect springs can generate major challenges.

Malcolm (former Chief C&W Inspector LM Region)

Roger said...

Thanks Peter. Sorry to ask the inevitable supplementary question. We currently have an RBr for sale, so is there yet another one lurking somewhere or will it need to be acquired - or maybe built from scratch knowing c & w skills!

The C and W Dept Blog of the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway said...

We are very aware of the different weights And springing particularly for the RBr's. We are very fortunate in C&W to have several very experienced volunteers with specialist knowledge in their fields. Our 'guru' on MK 1's being one of them.

We actually have an un-restored RBr and the bogies swap was with this carriage. Yes the bogie will need sorting at some stage just not before the RBr goes into service. While we have the knowledge we currently lack suitable lifting equipment but I understand that's in hand.

The C and W Dept Blog of the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway said...

Roger, hi

I doubt we have the skills, equipment, patients or the time. Having no carriage shed to protect the carriages, they don't last for ever, witness the state of RBr 1675.